Sorry about being late... this weeks discussion Healing of the Blind man John 9:1-12 and 35-41

Hey everyone I am so sorry about being so late in posting this discussion this week... I got distracted and lost my awareness of time... anyway here is the scripture again if yall would like to discuss it:

John 9:1-12 NLT John 9:1 As Jesus was walking along, he saw a man who had been blind from birth. 2 "Rabbi," his disciples asked him, "why was this man born blind? Was it because of his own sins or his parents' sins?" 3 "It was not because of his sins or his parents' sins," Jesus answered. "This happened so the power of God could be seen in him. 4 We must quickly carry out the tasks assigned us by the one who sent us. The night is coming, and then no one can work. 5 But while I am here in the world, I am the light of the world." 6 Then he spit on the ground, made mud with the saliva, and spread the mud over the blind man's eyes. 7 He told him, "Go wash yourself in the pool of Siloam" (Siloam means "sent"). So the man went and washed and came back seeing! 8 His neighbors and others who knew him as a blind beggar asked each other, "Isn't this the man who used to sit and beg?" 9 Some said he was, and others said, "No, he just looks like him!" But the beggar kept saying, "Yes, I am the same one!" 10 They asked, "Who healed you? What happened?" 11 He told them, "The man they call Jesus made mud and spread it over my eyes and told me, 'Go to the pool of Siloam and wash yourself.' So I went and washed, and now I can see!" 12 "Where is he now?" they asked."I don't know," he replied.

John 9:35-41 35 When Jesus heard what had happened, he found the man and asked, "Do you believe in the Son of Man? " 36 The man answered, "Who is he, sir? I want to believe in him." 37 "You have seen him," Jesus said, "and he is speaking to you!" 38 "Yes, Lord, I believe!" the man said. And he worshiped Jesus. 39 Then Jesus told him, "I entered this world to render judgment-- to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind." 40 Some Pharisees who were standing nearby heard him and asked, "Are you saying we're blind?" 41 "If you were blind, you wouldn't be guilty," Jesus replied. "But you remain guilty because you claim you can see.

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Oh and I forgot to mention that yall were talked about in a huge article in the Cicni Enquirer last Saturday... here is the link....

The Waters and Florence UMC in the paper

You can view some more pictures as well, but I sure wish they would have come to our Organic Gathering, but oh well.

Yall take care and God bless ya!

Feeding of the 5,000 (i.e. catfish and hushpuppies!): John 4.1-15

(just ignore the tomatoes in this picture...and the corn veg mix on the side, heh)

John 6:1-15

1 After this, Jesus crossed over to the far side of the Sea of Galilee, also known as the Sea of Tiberias. 2 A huge crowd kept following him wherever he went, because they saw his miraculous signs as he healed the sick. 3 Then Jesus climbed a hill and sat down with his disciples around him. 4 (It was nearly time for the Jewish Passover celebration.) 5 Jesus soon saw a huge crowd of people coming to look for him. Turning to Philip, he asked, "Where can we buy bread to feed all these people?" 6 He was testing Philip, for he already knew what he was going to do. 7 Philip replied, "Even if we worked for months, we wouldn't have enough money to feed them!" 8 Then Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, spoke up. 9 "There's a young boy here with five barley loaves and two fish. But what good is that with this huge crowd?" 10 "Tell everyone to sit down," Jesus said. So they all sat down on the grassy slopes. (The men alone numbered 5,000.) 11 Then Jesus took the loaves, gave thanks to God, and distributed them to the people. Afterward he did the same with the fish. And they all ate as much as they wanted. 12 After everyone was full, Jesus told his disciples, "Now gather the leftovers, so that nothing is wasted." 13 So they picked up the pieces and filled twelve baskets with scraps left by the people who had eaten from the five barley loaves. 14 When the people saw him do this miraculous sign, they exclaimed, "Surely, he is the Prophet we have been expecting!" 15 When Jesus saw that they were ready to force him to be their king, he slipped away into the hills by himself.

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Ok there is the scripture for this week.

And here are a few more questions that you might like to discuss if you can not remember what we talked about.

We kept on saying that a lot of the time that the people got caught up with the miraculous sign instead of realizing who did it, but at the end of this text it looks like they might have "got it" because they were wanting to make him "King"...but why did Jesus leave and not let them?

How can we use the example of the way Christ communicates (obvious, but with multiple levels of meaning) with us, in the way that we communicate with other normal people?

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that should get us started. Thank you all for coming tonight, it was lots of fun and I can not express my thanks and love for you all! Never forget to keep tring to invite and develop relationships with the chosen normal! KUTPs!

In Trinity,
D.G.

Invalid @ the Pool John 5.1-18

^NLT John 5:1 Afterward Jesus returned to Jerusalem for one of the Jewish holy days. ² Inside the city, near the Sheep Gate, was the pool of Bethesda, with five covered porches. ³ Crowds of sick people-- blind, lame, or paralyzed-- lay on the porches. ^{4 5} One of the men lying there had been sick for thirty-eight years. ⁶ When Jesus saw him and knew he had been ill for a long time, he asked him, "Would you like to get well?" ⁷ "I can't, sir," the sick man said, "for I have no one to put me into the pool when the water bubbles up. Someone else always gets there ahead of me." ⁸ Jesus told him, "Stand up, pick up your mat, and walk!" ⁹ Instantly, the man was healed! He rolled up his sleeping mat and began walking! But this miracle happened on the Sabbath, ¹⁰ so the Jewish leaders objected. They said to the man who was cured, "You can't work on the Sabbath! The law doesn't allow you to carry that sleeping mat!" ¹¹ But he replied, "The man who healed me told me, 'Pick up your mat and walk.'" ¹² "Who said such a thing as that?" they demanded. ¹³ The man didn't know, for Jesus had disappeared into the crowd. ¹⁴ But afterward Jesus found him in the Temple and told him, "Now you are well; so stop sinning, or something even worse may happen to you." ¹⁵ Then the man went and told the Jewish leaders that it was Jesus who had healed him. ¹⁶ So the Jewish leaders began harassing Jesus for breaking the Sabbath rules. ¹⁷ But Jesus replied, "My Father is always working, and so am I." ¹⁸ So the Jewish leaders tried all the harder to find a way to kill him. For he not only broke the Sabbath, he called God his Father, thereby making himself equal with God.

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Well, any more discussion? I know that John and I still were talking about how much of a shock that would have been to the Jewish ears with Jesus saying that God was working on the Sabbath. Why do you think it was such a shock, and what does that say about God? Can God do anything God wants....Including changing the way God has told his creation to live? And if you want to go a little deeper,...(heh heh.....yeah here it comes)..... does God change his mind?

OK that should last us through the week, heh....

Oh and if anyone wants to read and see other posters like the picture I showed tonight then you can go to:
despair.com
It really does have some VERY funny things!

Thanks again for coming and Can't wait for next week! KUTPs!

Healing of the official's Son John 4:43-54

Welcome to the continued Treasure Hunt!

The Scripture Discussion passage this week was:

John 4:46-54 46 As he traveled through Galilee, he came to Cana, where he had turned the water into wine. There was a government official in nearby Capernaum whose son was very sick. 47 When he heard that Jesus had come from Judea to Galilee, he went and begged Jesus to come to Capernaum to heal his son, who was about to die. 48 Jesus asked, "Will you never believe in me unless you see miraculous signs and wonders?" 49 The official pleaded, "Lord, please come now before my little boy dies." 50 Then Jesus told him, "Go back home. Your son will live!" And the man believed what Jesus said and started home. 51 While the man was on his way, some of his servants met him with the news that his son was alive and well. 52 He asked them when the boy had begun to get better, and they replied, "Yesterday afternoon at one o'clock his fever suddenly disappeared!" 53 Then the father realized that that was the very time Jesus had told him, "Your son will live." And he and his entire household believed in Jesus. 54 This was the second miraculous sign Jesus did in Galilee after coming from Judea.
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OK Any further discussion on this passage?

How would you have responded to Jesus if you were the man in the story and he told you to "Go back home"?

Is there a difference between faith and belief? Or just different levels of faith?

Maybe the real sing is the faith of the father rather than the healing of the son?

What kind of sings can people see in you?
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(thanks for putting up with the late posting of the online discussion, I have had a very busy week, Take care and God bless yall! KUTPs!)

In Trinity,
D.G. (another crash)